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My guest today is Jeff Garner.

Jeff has designed and dressed many of the celebrities who love and adore, including Taylor Swift, The Jonas Brothers, Rihanna, Def Leppard, Kings of Leon, and other artists out of his hometown Nashville.

He's won an Emmy for his sustainable documentary, Remastered, which shines a light on the toxins used in the fashion industry and the health implications associated with these toxins.

The documentary also follows along with his creative journey as an artist.

When not designing sustainable garments, you can find Jeff surfing or on horseback.

He surfs twice a day religiously and gets on a horse whenever possible.

He's fueled by meditation and Aki bowls.

He literally eats AC bowls for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

All of his garments are made with plant-based fibers and colored with plant-based dyes.

You will never see Jeff wearing a garment he did not create himself.

He's the most authentic representation of what the world would look like, dressed head to toe, if we were all to be truly sustainable and wear clothing that's good for our health.

He's passionate about getting every human into toxic free garments.

His motivation comes from the passing of his mother to breast cancer, and of his hippie father to bone marrow cancer.

He dispels myths about this topic and brings truth to the toxicity found in everyday clothes, and he's committed to the health implications associated with the toxins normal clothing contains.

He's currently working on another documentary on the subject called Let Them Be Naked.

Does that Hawaii?

I wish.

Now it's Malibu.

birds of Paradise.

Yeah.

Malibu.

Okay.

West Coast.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We can jump right in if you like, because I really appreciate the time and how we want to go surfing or something.

How did you know?

I got your bio.

I tried to do my research.

Now it could.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I'm like, wow, this guy's makes some real cool clothing.

Yeah.

I don't know if I have anywhere I could go that I could wear.

But I can see why someone like Taylor Swift or whoever.

You know, I always challenge my buddies to just, you know, just shift it up to like even go get coffee.

And they call it the estates.

Oscar Wilde was an estate.

But if you kind of dress in a way that portrays more of your kind of soulful, artistic nature, like it doesn't, it's not a showy thing.

It's not a money thing.

It's it's not a, you know, and it really and see how people talk to you differently and treat you differently and like the conversations that happen.

Because if you think about walking into the art gallery, how your eyes just kind of light up, that's what happens when you walk into a store or a coffee shop wearing something that's more, you know, artsy in the sense of fabrications and dyes, etc.

You know, anyways, all the buddies I've challenged have done it and just come back and be like, I love it.

And so they kind of shifted their thinking of just wearing jeans and t-shirts every day because it's simple and easy and nobody judges them.

And I think that's kind of what happens is that people are almost afraid to step out into a visual difference because of being judged or looked at or yeah, it's interesting.

Let's jump right in.

We'll come back to your backstory because I'm one thing that really inspires me about you is you're doing your thing, you're creative, you're into fashion, but you're also helping the planet and people's health, of course, and we'll get back to that.

But real quick, since you're talking about your friends and people walking into a coffee shop, wearing this clothes, tell me about the brand.

It's Rafa Tick, your clothing brand?

Yeah, prophetic.

So yeah, so that's the label since I started.

Do you want to know the history, the background?

I'm kind of curious real quick if...

The name?

Well, I'd like to try it myself.

I totally agree.

People, like there's a lot of lonely people in the world, and some of them are real professional, smart people or good people, and they just didn't realize, you know, you can't, if you go out of the house looking like that, you're going to play baseball or, you know, if you go into a setting, a social setting, and you want to meet people, and you want to be authentic, express yourself, but it's hard to tell them what to do, what to wear.

So tell me about your brand in terms of, we'll get to the house non-toxic, it's good for your health, good for the environment, sustainable, but how it looks interesting and cool on you, and where you can get it and how much it costs.

Because I'm kind of curious about that too, if Taylor Swift wears it.

Sure.

Well, yeah.

Yeah.

So let's see, where do we begin?

So yeah, I guess we'll start with the idea of just it being an aesthetic.

So there was this group back in the 1800s called the Estates, and they were poets, actors, activists, painters, artists of all sorts, and a group of gentlemen and ladies.

And they just, you know, kind of part of it was that they would dress unique and different to the time.

And that's how they were.

And so when they would join together, whatever, go out in settings, you know, I talk about it like, it's funny, everyone makes fun of me.

But when I go like to the airport, I'm like, great, I got to prepare myself.

They're like, for what?

I go for eye pollution.

They're like, eye pollution?

What are you talking about?

I go, well, you don't understand what it's like being a designer and walk into the airport.

And it's just people are wearing pajamas and really just not caring about how they present themselves or how they look.

And again, it's not about money and how much you can afford because that's all smoke and mirrors.

For luxury brands, their fabrication, they're not using natural dyes.

There's no reason for their price point other than kind of this fake marketing of like, you're cool if you wear us.

Like, there's no reason from a production standpoint to why that garment is more expensive than another other than a brand name.

So, you know, I'm just talking simply about like how something falls on the body, the fabric, the way it makes you feel and how it presents.

And so, you know, it's funny, sometimes I jump on the plane and the captain will come out and say, thank you for dressing up.

I'm like, what do you mean?

He goes, well, people used to respect traveling.

The captain, they're dressed up.

The captain is wearing a shirt and a pants.

Yeah, it's a uniform, but it's a respect to the customers.

They, you know, and obviously, you know, all uniforms are great, which we go into in the doc, but and a mandatory center.

But it is a sense of respect because if you think about it, like you are out in public, people are seeing you.

So, you know, I always challenge my buddies and I told you earlier, but I'm like, because a lot of guys are, you know, we didn't have this culture and I'm just, you know, I'm just assuming and or, you know, guesstimating.

But most men, when they're raised, the fathers don't take them out and say, hey, let me show you how to dress.

Or this is what it looks like.

This is how to tie a tie.

But my dad taught me that, but it was different in my Southern culture.

We wore ties and bow ties, etc.

Anyway, so both the women, however, all the friends get together, moms, like they go to dress shops, they learn how to dress, they dress up for debutante or for the prom or whatever.

So they learn how to put things together.

That's part of their subculture growing up.

So I challenged my buddies, I'm like, hey, just try it.

See what happens.

Just put on a set of jeans and a t-shirt, put on a button up and put on this cool vest and or just try something.

And it's funny when they come back to me like, wow, this girl talked to me, the girl behind the coffee shop, she was like, I love what you're wearing.

And it was just kind of like it sparked a new conversation and new thought for them and made them feel good.

And so that's kind of my take on it.

It's not about presenting yourself like I'm cool, I'm fashionable, I got money, it's the other.

It's to say this is a part of who I am.

Because when I started working in, you know, I grew up in Nashville, and when I started working with my bandmates, they were like hopeless.

I mean, amazing artists could play anything.

Wearing a Van Halen t-shirt from the 80s still.

Yeah.

And that was her thing.

And for some reason it was like the code, like there was like some hidden code, like that's what you did to be cool on stage.

And I'm like, guys, it's great.

Your medium is an audible.

That's your art form.

My medium is visual.

And I go, it's got to connect because you're on stage.

So therefore you also have to be a visual as well.

And that's where you connect with your audience.

They want to see you not in jeans and t-shirt.

They would see you in a unique form of view.

Not, and I don't really like the stylist thing because they kind of just, they buy stuff that off a rack or they work with companies and just place it on an artist like they're a billboard.

I'm like, no, let's, and so I would meet with my artist friends and find out what they show me their wardrobe, their favorite pieces and why.

And then I go to the board and I'll be like, hey, let me design something unique for them that resonates with who they are, their poetry and their music.

And then we put it on stage with their music and it matches and it's like, cool.

And that's why I always use live music for my catwalks because it is both a visual medium and an audible.

And when it matches, it's amazing.

So it's just another form of art.

So how did you get into integrating the health?

When did you start realizing that some of the stuff, the dyes are toxic, the materials, the polyester that we'll get into, why that's bad for people against your skin and so forth.

When did you start to put that into your, or was it there from the beginning?

When did you get the sustainable, we got to be eco conscientious and health conscientious?

Sure.

I mean, at the very beginning, because growing up on a farm in Tennessee, I had a sensibility of what is good for the environment, what's not.

That's the way I was raised.

My grandmother taught me to sew and I knew fabrications and I knew dyes.

When I got into actually producing garments for some of these bands and or started my own collection, the first thing I noticed was just when I started printing band t-shirts, the plastic salt ink that's in the garment.

It just smells.

It smells bad, right?

It smells, but when you see the production side of it like I do, see these guys with masks with the garments coming off the heater after been printed, and you see the guys running the printers all break out like they were a teenager.

I'm like, what's going on?

Hormone disruption, blah, blah, blah.

And there was no air flow.

People were just like, this is like art class.

I'm like, no, this is toxic chemicals that need something.

And then everyone thinks when you dry something, and this is the most, it's so weird to talk to friends, that paint dries, it doesn't let off its toxins.

I'm like, where did that come from?

And obviously, there's chemical companies, there's PR companies that spin this in so many ways.

And so they just justify everything.

But no, it absolutely 100% off gases.

So when you get Plastisol ink on a t-shirt, on these babies, and it's sitting on their chest, and their nostrils right there, what do you think is going to happen?

Plus the oil in their skin, the oil in their skin, just like if you were to go clean a paintbrush, and you dip it in oil to a solvent to get the paint clean, dissolve the paint, your skin has oils and stuff, and a lot of people don't understand that your skin stuff absorbs through the skin.

It's not a rubber jacket.

It breathes.

Yeah.

So there's that false idea that skin protects you from these things, and it doesn't.

We were never made to wear clothing, and that's part of the reason for the documentary is break down that barrier to connect the dots that, hey, what you wear does penetrate your skin and does affect you, and we have science, we have research, and we show that, we talk about it.

So it's not this kind of unknown, but we're up against.

I believe you mentioned, you believe your mom's cancer and your dad's cancer were both related to some part of it anyhow, the toxins that we get every day from wearing these clothes that are manufactured in the facilities like you talk about with the plastics and stuff, right?

Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, it's kind of like being a doctor.

When you know too much about a certain subject matter, and then you see it, and then you have an outcome like that, that hits you, you pay attention.

Yeah, my mother's breast cancer 100 percent came from bras.

It's like, it's the wildest thing to not talk about bras.

It's like not talking about cigarettes for lung cancer.

It's like, you look, nobody's studied it.

Why?

Because there's a whole industry out there that doesn't want that connection to happen.

So we're going to break that open with the doc and the book, and we got.

Some people don't realize that fat is a place where your body will try to store toxins because it needs a place to store them.

Yeah, it's protecting your body.

Yeah.

Breast, of course, have a lot of fat in them.

And your body is trying to save you because if it doesn't save you, it can't save your child.

So where is there a lot of fat?

I'm going to put it in the breast.

Well, that's where I make the milk.

Well, I got to do what I got to do because you're wearing all this bad stuff, this clothing, and I got to put it someplace.

I can't detoxify it.

My body doesn't have the enzyme or the capacity to, I don't know what that chemical is.

I can't get it out of my body.

I got to store it someplace, right?

Yeah.

I mean, think about it.

I mean, if the thing about the impact is right on the breast, why would you study that?

Because that is putting it straight in, and then the constriction from the bra keeps the lymphatic system from actually operating and working and moving it out.

The pressure, it's very sensitive, so it's like a sensitive hose.

You put any type of pressure on it, it's going to stop it.

Because it doesn't have a beating heart, it doesn't have a pump pushing it.

So it's got to have movement to push it.

So the whole system doesn't work.

Our bodies are beautiful designed, but when you constrict it, put something toxic on it, it's not going to work.

So, and then my hippie dad who grew up here in Malibu, just on the water, on the beach, ate healthy, had an organic garden.

The only one thing was his one vice was that he would go to Target and buy cheap clothing because he was a hippie.

He didn't know about, and obviously I taught him later on in his life about it, and he converted over and started to wear my hemp boxers, stuff like that, but it was too late.

Wearing that clothing on the beach, on the sun, it's going to penetrate, go in.

So eventually got him.

It's called bioaccumulation.

So like you and I have different levels, so we can probably can take in so much.

But the idea is to get, not intake, right?

At least as much as possible.

So also, there's those people that go, well, he wears that and he's fine.

The people don't understand medically, we don't all have the same systems in our body.

Like some people are allergic to pollen, thank God I'm out.

And it could kill them.

They could not breathe all of a sudden for a little bit of pollen.

So a lot of people don't understand.

Well, kind of like, well, they say that's not bad for you.

It didn't kill him.

It will.

It doesn't mean it won't.

It's not what's making you sick.

Or you could be healthier because we just want to be healthier, enjoy life a bit longer.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah.

So tell me about greenwashing because that's just when you try to do good.

You think you're doing good for the planet.

You think you're being healthy.

There's all these greenwashing tactics and just the term greenwashing is kind of Washington.

So you don't really know.

What does that mean?

Well, I mean, it means different to different people.

But you know, I look at it this way.

I think look at intention.

Like what's the intention of someone?

What's the intention of that company?

And the problem with greenwashing is that it works.

These these companies know what they're doing.

They created doubt in people and they created, you know, so now when people hear like people like me speaking or talk about this, they kind of automatically tune off because they think they've heard it before or, you know, but fair.

There are companies out there that talk about these things.

They're choosing one thing and saying, oh, we're using organic cotton.

But let's say it's synthetically dyed.

Well, it's like painting a beautiful wood wall.

And now it's non-porous.

It's covered with toxic paint.

It's not going to be healthy for you anymore.

So people just don't want to put forth the effort and work.

I would say majority of people just they have enough on their plate.

They're surviving their, you know, you know, with everything else.

And last thing I want to do is try to figure out what they should wear or not wear.

So, you know, they're going to listen to the first guy says, oh, like thinks underwear said, oh, this is great for women for your period.

We do that.

And then they come.

It was toxic free.

And then there are the ones who got, I don't know if you heard, but they got the first lawsuit that actually won because they had against false marketing.

They said they were toxic free and they're not.

So they didn't try to get them on.

Yeah, they didn't try to get them on like, oh, this causes cancer and this causes X, Y, and Z.

They just said, this is false marketing.

Because here we ran a test and these toxins are in it.

So you cannot say it's non-toxic.

So that really was a good first to hopefully start some accountability.

But the problem is the general public just doesn't want to.

So yeah, so these companies pick its marketing 101.

They pick one thing that sounds good.

They put it out there as a green stamp because it's politically correct and that's what they run with.

And the rest of it's highly toxic or not fair trade, fair labor or, you know, anyways, there's tons of variables.

But the problem is like who's has time to police it or figure it out or research it.

What is your opinion on that's because we have on for the last couple of years, it's been really challenging, like frustrating.

I try to find all cotton, just not even organic cotton would be nice, but just cotton long sleeve t-shirt because I'm in the desert and I do rock climbing.

It was really hard to even find any cotton because the latest trend is, I think it's that polyester blend that's supposed to shed sweat better, keep you cooler.

I hate it because it does not keep me cooler.

But it has that polyester or that toxic fabric in it too, right?

Well, if you look at, I'm a designer, you look at the behaviors, and I know textile, you look at the behaviors of textiles, polyester is called biomimicry.

So polyester is a mimic of hemp.

They make it in a laboratory, control it, and then they mix it with something else, an already chemical, and they give it a new name, like wickerware, for example.

So wicks away the sweat, right?

That's the idea.

Polyester naturally, when you drop like a dot on polyester, it's going to beat up and roll off.

It won't soak into the fabric, right?

That's the poly.

So it naturally is nonpermeable.

So what they do, they spread a chemical on it, that allows it to spread out and then dry.

And that's what they call wickerware.

So but the problem is, it doesn't go through, right?

So it stays on your skin, but it dries underneath, right?

So you're right, absolutely.

It doesn't keep you cooler.

And it's just another kind of false marketing thing, ploy, to get people to wear this stuff and call it a pie.

That's what I thought.

Yeah, that's what I thought.

It's like a marketing thing.

Here's the biggest thing, like what else can we do to sell clothes, besides make them look good or fashionable?

There's nothing that will ever beat out natural fibers in the way they behave.

Never ever.

And they'll try to make something in a lab that mimics it, but the reality is they're just trying to control it, make it as cheap as possible, and use chemicals versus plants, because it's more expensive to do with plants, right?

So they're trying to control that, and it's just not healthy or good.

And bottom line is that we have science, we have research that shows that it actually, as an athlete, say you're in the desert climbing, it fatigues your muscles 25% faster.

So there is that.

So if you are an Olympian, and you're performing in the US Olympics, I personally would want to wage my bets.

I would wear a hem.

Are these cotton, organic cotton?

Cotton holds water.

I mean, you can mix it with cotton, but you want the main fabric to be hem.

So it behaves like hem.

So I didn't know this.

Hem actually does help wick moisture and what not keep you cool?

That's it.

Yeah.

How does it do that?

How's the fiber different?

Well, it's just if you look at cotton, I mean, just look at the makeup of cotton, and look at the ball, and look at how it's squishy and spongy.

So naturally, the pores of that are going to soak in the water.

That's why people use cotton rags and stuff to soak up water.

You just do take a little hemp rag and a cotton, like I make my towels out of hemp.

The hemp is not going to take it in as much.

It's going to obviously wipe it.

Right.

It doesn't absorb it.

It is porous, but it naturally, I don't know how the plant does this, but it naturally kind of, that's why it's good in both summer and winter.

It just naturally operates like where the pores close and they open.

Cotton just absorbs.

Yeah.

That's why they use cotton pads, right?

Medically, they used to use cotton pads.

It absorbs.

That's the nature of it.

Yeah.

That makes sense.

I have one thing that I swear by that I will not buy anything but hemp are my socks.

They're organic hemp socks and they last forever too.

Every day for six months the same pair in terms of going hiking and stuff.

Yeah.

That's great.

Yeah.

Wool is great too because again, wool naturally like we did it on the dock.

We did a test where I jumped in my hemp boxers, he jumped in and his wool boxers, we're up in Lake Como and freezing winter.

We did a thermal camera on the both boxers.

The thing with wool is that the claim is that it will maintain its temperature.

We jumped in, sure enough, it has maintained its temperature.

Mine dropped a little bit, but we just tested a poly fabric and it completely dropped down to the water temp.

But yeah, it was wild to see, but wool, and it stood.

It was great.

Anti-microbial properties too.

They're built into hemp better than cotton has pretty much zero.

In terms of people are all into these anti-microbials, which is another chemical they're putting on their skin too.

You see the stuff back there.

Yeah, any of those flashy words.

Yeah, unless you're dealing with the fabric that's, yeah, but anyways.

But yeah.

Think about like-

Sorry, sorry.

If it's anti-microbial, why would I want it on my skin?

You're a living being and you are biological.

What are the other bad offenders in fashion?

Do you have like the top five worst offenders?

As far as like brands or labels?

Well, sure.

Just-

Brands, something that's helpful, like if people take away from this.

Okay, cool.

Yeah.

Because I first say I don't like to name call out.

You know, names change too.

Yeah, unless I'm designing for them and in there every day, I'm not going to like, I can judge what's on the marketplace.

So I can look at it and say, okay, that's not, you know.

But I would say, you know, obviously, stay away from women need to stay away from the spandex.

Oh yeah, yoga pants.

Yoga pants.

Yeah, yoga pants, just the way they're designed, their fabrication is really, really bad.

And obviously, with spandex, you have TDI in it.

So it's a hormone disruptor.

And so imagine that going straight in to their body where they're, you know, a lot of women don't wear underwear with those pants, et cetera.

So and they wear them all day long.

That's a big one because you'll find, because it's culture.

What should they wear instead?

Well, you know, they back when I first started doing yoga, we wore it and kind of bloomer pants, right?

It was more kind of hippie cool.

But now obviously the women are wanting to come and show off their bodies.

Fine, do it.

But so they were very tight, very, you know, so, you know, there are companies working on that.

They're doing bamboo and things like that.

You just want to make sure it's a natural fiber and you want at least less than 4% stretch in there because it's kind of like your socks.

I look at you, if you looked at your hemp socks, it wouldn't be 100% hemp.

Why?

Because it needs some elasticity to hold.

So it's got to work.

It's got it.

So if you interlace the fabric with a little bit of stretch, well, that spandex is not going to be touching your skin.

And that's what I care about.

And it's going to be a least amount that it'll still be breathable and behave like hemp.

So that kind of key factor is anything 4% unless it helps that product perform, it's fine.

And what we were trying, yep, go ahead.

Yeah, so that's what I would, yeah.

So I would just focus on that for the ladies.

Underwear for men, and ladies, just make sure it's natural, fiber undyed.

Sheeting, bed sheeting is the next thing I would change.

Make sure it's natural because our body's off gas every night, our toxins in it.

If you're sleeping in it, you're putting back down, you need to be allowed to breathe.

I forgot about the sheets.

Yeah, the sheets are so important.

You're right.

We spend a good, hopefully, eight hours, six to eight hours, naked.

Yeah, I forgot about the sheets.

That's a huge one in terms of your health.

Yeah.

Then the last thing is the detergents that everyone can change tonight, today when they listen to this.

They can go to the grocery store, get 7th generation, they can buy Borax at a local market, they can make their own.

But you want to stay away from any of those free and clear brands that Tide and Gain and all that stuff.

Exactly.

So Tide, for example, and those other brands that are free and clear, it's ironic.

But I bet if you really ask them and do your research, the toxic chemicals are in there, they add more chemicals to make it free and clear.

It's like a perfume against a perfume, so the whole thing neutralizes out.

But then you don't smell it, you're breathing two chemicals.

I like Seventh Generation because way back when that company started, the CEO, the founder, I think he came from the Kennedys or something like that, something in that bloodline.

He had good intentions, kind of like you, Jeff.

He honestly had good, he really wanted to make a good product and not monkey around and greenwash it.

It's a company.

Yeah.

And they're free and clear is truly free and clear and all the ingredients.

Yeah.

You just got to turn the bottle over and know what ingredients to look for.

But the reality is there's no regulation to just have to disclose the ingredients.

And that's the other thing.

So that's where it kind of gets dicey because even in your clothing, nobody is telling what's in it.

You could say it's 100 percent cotton and it's not.

Yeah.

So that's what we're fighting for in this doc in this book is to get people aware and show there's no regulation and that we need some sort of policy to protect people.

It is the health.

How could you have something that says 100 percent cotton or even just says cotton?

What else would be in it?

Oh, cheaper ingredients.

Why not?

What's a cheaper?

So non-cotton.

Poly is cheaper than anything.

Nylon is cheaper.

Think about those 100 cashmere sweaters that come from China.

They're not 100 percent cashmere.

They're mixed with acrylic.

Acrylic is super cheap, man-made.

It was made in the 50s to help women be able to wash their sweaters, say to their mom, sorry, our dads, to wash their sweaters in a laundry.

Now that you mention it, back to my frustration, being a climber in the desert, trying to find clothing that really, I don't mind if it absorbs my sweat because I'm trying to conserve water and it stays me cool.

I just like it.

Maybe that explains why if I buy different cotton t-shirts, they're all cotton, but they don't perform the same because some of them are cheaper, have had it as I never, I didn't know that was.

So tell me about the dyes.

How do you make your dyes?

Clearly, we know toxic dyes are toxic.

How is that done?

Natural dyes?

Sure.

Then I'll have to wrap it up.

But yeah, plant.

So I use plant dyes, not vegetable dyes.

So plant dyes, if you look back at the Renaissance era, it went from medieval to color.

I say we became color in the Renaissance.

Because I started playing around with Da Vinci and all these guys, we're really learning how to use plants and their colors.

So that's why they call it the Renaissance.

So whether with paint, pigments, and actual pigments for fabrication.

I went to Florence to study that.

In Tennessee, I could only study so much.

Then you look back and every color has been produced before naturally.

Technical difficulties.

Didn't get to say goodbye to Jeff or thank him for being on my show.

Jeff, I really appreciate it.

I'm sure this information is going to be very helpful to a lot of people who want to shop both eco-friendly and do what's good for their health.

Plus, as we spoke about in terms of being at the gym or doing a sport or an activity like climbing and running and going to the gym, there are other fabrics that are better for performance, and that you can't always trust the label in terms of, is it cotton, is it polyester, what are you getting?

This podcast was very helpful in terms of helping understand when you're shopping, how to read the labels, what you can find in the labels in Nottingham.

Also, you're good and fashionable.

If you have, if you look good, people will talk to you and make new friends and you'll feel better about yourself.

So thanks for being on my show.

I look forward to your documentaries.

The best to you and continued success with your brand and everything you do.

Thank you.