Think Differently. Solve the Impossible.

This episode helps you think clearly in a noisy world, cut through misinformation, and find the solutions as applied to thinking clearly.

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Transcript

Globalism, this move towards a world state, HG Wells and many people have talked about this plan.

Technocracy, right, or algocracy, rule by AI algorithm. 

And I think it's pertinent for people to read George Orwell.

I reread 1984 this summer, and I watched the movie for the first time.

I think the movie was put out in the 80s or 90s.

And what's happening, because you talk about censorship, I think ultimately what's happening is, I think Orwell knew something.

So it wasn't just fiction that he wrote, but somehow he was an insider, and he revealed these plans.

Because it's weird, because they're literally being implemented right now.

Thought crime is being legislated in every country.

Here in Mexico, they just proposed this week, they said they shot it down, but it was a proposal to put you in jail for up to six years.

If you created a meme, making fun of a politician.

We've seen that happen in the US.

There was that me, the guy who made a meme of Hillary Clinton.

A meme is a cartoon. Like a funny, silly photo that's all over the internet, or even if you make an audio or digitally altered video of a politician, or even if friends or family, and if someone gets offended, they can denounce you and then you can be investigated and go to jail.

That was proposed in Mexico.

Under the guise of hate speech.

In Australia now, I just read today in Australia, Australia is proposing at EU, Canada, USA, Brazil.

Once you understand the scope of it, and they use different masks.

It reminds me of terrorism in the United States.

After 9-11, they passed all these laws.

If you can be qualified as a terrorist for anything, for protesting global warming or pesticides or whatever, you're a terrorist.

If they can fit you in that classification, then all the laws for a terrorist apply.

That's the same framework.

So what you just described is they're building that infrastructure, and what they're trying to do now is make it legal.

And so anyone who thinks something, they put their thought out on social media, Facebook, or they say it, and it's heard by smartphone devices that are listening in to us, and someone denounces you or the government denounces you.

So they're making it law now to where if you think a thought crime, like Orwell said, you can be arrested and put to jail.

We're seeing in UK now, which is ground zero.

Again, it's Airstrip One, it's George Orwell was from the UK, and now in the UK people put wrong thoughts on Facebook and people have seen videos, the authorities are going to your home.

Old people, like elderly people, are getting arrested for thought crime.

In the UK?

Yeah, yeah.

Who is making these laws?

Because I like to think even, in the end, in the United States Congress, these are normal people, they have good intentions.

Do they even read what they're signing?

Or do they just want to be elected and they'll do what they're told to do?

And who's telling them to do it then?

I think pretty much most politicians are bought and paid for.

You know, I got my graduate studies in the Geneva School of Diplomacy.

And so I was a staff assistant at the EU and the UN for six months during that time.

And so I was sort of in the belly of the beast.

And I got a little glimpse of these people, of diplomats and politicians.

And most of them are narcissistic and opportunistic.

So they got cushy jobs, well paid.

So they get a lot of money and they're popular in their own mind and status.

And that's what pushes the vast majority of them.

And so I think there is an entire infrastructure that's global, that's basically running the show.

You've got a whole host of financial interests.

I refer to them as globalists.

So you've got these factions and groups of globalists that are this transnational financial class.

They own most of the key industry and then they come together at meetings at different times of the year to attempt to coordinate.

And then beyond that, there's an entire infrastructure of NGOs, supranational organizations they work through like the UN, World Economic Forum, BlackRock, the financial system.

Is there someone at the actual top of the food chain, or is it just organically, just because there's so many of these interests that this happens, these thought crime laws, or is there somebody really like a king at the top of all these, leading all these groups?

Well, I'm not sure.

I mean, that's the million dollar question.

You know, I think it's a grouping.

I really like the term occultocracy.

Somebody has referred to it.

So it's a money class, and they revolve around money and power and ideology.

And I think some of them have been around for centuries.

You know, I found an article in Bloomberg a year or two ago, which was talking about some prince in Lichtenstein and how his family, they've owned the land since the year 1200.

You know, it's 800 years.

And so that wealth has grown and they've maintained power.

And so they, yeah.

And then the, you know, I can give you a, because I live here in Mexico, I can give you an examples of how a lot of the policies, you got the Mexican politicians, but behind them, there are so many interests that come in and give them stacks of policy papers and say, implement this, and they throw the money at you.

And then, you know, Rockefeller Foundation.

Well, that reminds me of global warming.

A lot of people say, 98% of scientists agree in global warming.

No, only the 98% that they were chosen to say this because they knew these people would say it.

Yeah, yeah, they were bought and paid for.

I've interviewed many climate skeptics, scientists, rights, and they're bought and paid for.

And that green agenda, I was going to give that example here where I live in Mexico.

In 2020, when I returned, I noticed them building out massive public transport, which had not happened before.

And I'm wondering, where's this money coming from?

They're cutting car lanes to install public transport.

And they call this a resilient city.

And I'm like, I don't know, what is this resilient city?

And I found the actual documents from the government, and it says, resilient cities.

It's a project that's global, that's financed by the Rockefeller Foundation.

But I have the actual documents, it shows that the Rockefeller Foundation was financing the buildout.

And as you mentioned, global warming is the green agenda.

So they're cutting car lanes and building public transport because they want to take away our freedom, our cars.

Transportation is our freedom to move.

To move and they just introduced three years ago, we didn't have this in Mexico before, three years ago, vehicle emissions, like you're used to in the US and elsewhere.

And now if your car doesn't pass emissions, I already know Mexicans that this has happened to, their car didn't pass the emissions test, so now their car is illegal.

So their car has been taken away now by the government.

And it's a big city, and so now you gotta spend hours and hours.

If you have a car, it'll take you less than an hour to get to where you need to.

But now if it's taken away, it's gonna take you two or three hours in one direction instead of less than 60 minutes.

And imagine that impact.

I try to focus on solutions, and I like your attitude on that too.

When I think about solutions is, there are people that will still believe it's all in the good name of preventing pollution and climate change.

Oh, it's a good thing that we're getting rid of our cars.

How do you get those people to to just think different?

So they get it before it's too late.

Maybe it's too late anyhow and they can't do anything, but at least they can see it coming more.

They can think better.

It's really difficult.

I mean, this is one of the reasons that we do what we do, is just try to make noise.

I mean, we can look at the wealthy.

Again, because really what climate change is or global warming, the theory, I call it, it's a rebranding of eugenics in a way.

And I call it neo-feudalism, because what is it ultimately doing?

They're also now talking about a carbon score or carbon social credit system, which is going to tax you for your energy use.

And what happens here?

It's neo-feudalism again, you know, feudalism, not just tax you, but also give you bonuses, checks if you behave, if you say the right thing, if you buy the right car, if you, etc, etc.

Yeah, with your digital currency, then you could control that.

Yeah.

And thanks to, you know, the capitalist system, it's not perfect, but then it also concentrates into monopoly capitalism.

So you could either have communism or monopoly capitalism, which are pretty much the same in their effects.

But, and in this industrialization, we've developed a middle class, so a whole host of people can be prosperous.

And so they want to bring us back to the two class system where it's rich and poor.

And then I'm thinking about this global warming, where, you know, they're going to have the carbon system.

And if you want to buy more meat or use more gasoline or buy more airplane travel tickets, you're going to have to pay higher carbon tax fees.

For the middle class, it'll become untenable, which will mean I won't be able to travel or buy eat as much meat as I want.

But the wealthy, the Al Gore's, they will continue life as normal because they can just pay the carbon taxes.

And then so my answer to you is like, well, why does they tell us the sea is rising?

Why does, you know, President Obama and Al Gore and Bill Gates have more than one multiple homes and some of them right on the coast?

And they're flying jets and they have I don't know how many cars like that doesn't make any sense.

So let's talk about the information like you say, it's hard to change people's minds, but at least you and I can try to to do we do.

But yet, you can get censored on the internet if they find you and don't like you.

So what is The Disinformation Governance Board?

Right, so that's what happened.

So you're going back to the war question.

So they've started censoring, you know, because of the Ukraine war.

So if you have a different perspective on you, I think it's whatever war at the moment, right?

Previously it would have been, you know, the wars in the Middle East.

Now Ukraine is the thing.

And then, you know, in a few years, if you start talking about the next war that you'll be, the censors will come down hard on you, as well as COVID.

COVID was the big one.

So I got taken off of Patreon in 2021 because of guests, doctors that I had criticizing.

When you say taken off, tell me exactly what that means.

Like you get an email, like you will take this episode off or lose your account.

Right.

So what happened was I received, it's a longer backstory.

So in 2020, I interviewed Dr.

Francis Boyle, who just passed away earlier this year.

And that interview exploded.

It went viral, pun intended.

He wrote the law on biological weapons of 1989.

And he said COVID was an offensive biological warfare weapon.

And that interview, 300,000 views on YouTube, it was taken down by YouTube.

And then the Associated Press a year later did a hit piece on him, mentioning my podcast Geopolitics & Empire.

And that Associated Press article was co-written by Atlantic Council, which is NATO's effectively NATO's think tank, NATO.

And so you have to understand the military and intelligence are linked with the media and the big tech platforms.

In fact, I think most of the big tech platforms, if you ask me, came out of DARPA.

Google was seed funded by DARPA, the military industrial complex.

Bezos' grandfather worked at DARPA, Amazon.

Facebook was a DARPA project.

And so just to get back to the point, so that in 2001, about that time that AP article came out, that same week or the following week is when Patreon sent me a message and they said that, so they cited two specific interviews.

One that I did with Dr.

Mark Circus, who's like an alternative health doctor.

He's down in Brazil.

And Robin Monotti, who's this Italian architect, film producer, and he speaks out against a lot of this stuff.

And Patreon said, you have to delete from the entire internet, from your YouTube, from your website, from Apple, from Spotify, from everywhere, these two interviews.

So they paused my, they froze my Patreon account.

They said, we'll unfreeze it if you delete these from the entire internet.

And then first of all, I'm like on the face of it.

No, I'm not going to be censored myself.

And number two, what's to stop them tomorrow saying, okay, delete 10 more and then 10 more and delete all of your podcasts.

I mean, you guys are crazy.

And so I said no, and they, they kept it frozen, Patreon.

And then I eventually deleted the account because...

And they probably didn't make this up themselves.

They cited CDs because of CDC and WHO, which is why I'm again talking earlier about world government and globalism.

So they said because the WHO and CDC say so, you can't criticize their view on COVID.

So what I mean is, I'm sure that was discrimination because you could go find other Patreon members talking about the same stuff.

It wasn't their idea.

Somebody told them to wipe the whole thing because why would they care what's on YouTube and other?

Why would they care at all?

Is that their standard policy or was it discrimination towards you?

Well, this is getting to The Disinformation Governance Board.

So I think that when someone, I guess I've done a pretty good job where someone is hitting the target, or reaches a certain threshold, they're like, okay, get that, even the movie They Live, I've got one that can see.

The next year, the Department of Homeland Security, Nina Jankowitz, if you recall her, she rolled out The Disinformation Governance Board, which was effectively going to be a Ministry of Truth.

It fell through?

This is the first I heard that term when I was researching you, this Disinformation Governance Board.

I've never heard of it before.

It's already in place.

No, so it didn't succeed because there was backlash.

And then later a guy called Mike Benz, who's got this Freedom Foundation, who deals with this sort of stuff.

Some of the reports that he put out, I pieced together what really happened.

So that same week, what are the chances that the dis...

April 2022, I forget the date, DHS attempts to establish the Ministry of Truth called The Disinformation Governance Board.

That same week and three months before that, I had made a new website with a membership option and I had linked PayPal and Stripe for payments.

And they roll out Disinformation Governance Board.

I get an email, PayPal and then Mint Press News, which is another anti-war publication, leftist.

I'm not a leftist, I'm more of a conservative, but I don't even identify with the right anymore.

I've watched senior website, you hang out with the most respectful people around the world.

You're not a quack, you're not a conspiracy guy.

I talk to left, to right, beyond.

And so it was Mint Press News, Consortium News, which was founded, I forget his name, was it Robert Perry?

So old school 1980s journalist who did Iran Contra.

And so we got banned from PayPal.

And then Kim Iverson and Matt Taibbi actually reported on our deplatforming.

People can check the archives for that.

And I actually sent Kim Iverson a screenshot while she was at the Hill still and it showed my name and geopolitics.

Did you get it back?

Can you get your PayPal back?

No, because there's no avenue for me to do it.

And I mean, I even called PayPal.

I'm like, can you close my account?

It's frozen.

I can't use it.

Like, no, I can't even close my account.

Oh, it's hard to get to PayPal anyhow.

It's a bot.

I mean, getting someone on the phone.

I got to a person, I got them on the phone.

They said, I can't close your account.

It has to remain frozen.

And so I realized what happened was DHS also has another agency called CISA.

What's DHS Department of Homeland Security?

Okay.

Which is effectively, like, it shouldn't even exist.

It was created because of 9-11, and it's effectively like a Nazi Gestapo Stasi agency.

And it goes back to what you're saying about terrorism.

They're creating the infrastructure now to anyone who questions the government, can be labeled, they label the terrorists and renditioned, or in this new world of digital dictatorship.

I've had a great guest on Jewish historian Edwin Black, who wrote the book on IBM.

I forget the title.

It's IBM and the Holocaust, how IBM created the first paper computer for Nazi Germany to classify.

And he calls it the algorithm ghetto.

So in this digital ghetto, they may not even need to send troops to your door.

They just, once everything is digital, they just press a button and you're debanked.

You can't buy food, you can't work, you can't renew your driver's license, your passport, you can't do anything, but I forget now where we were going with it.

So I want to mention the DHS.

They created CISA and in the documents from Mike Benz, it says that CISA now says that if...

What's CISA?

I forget the exact...

I can pull it up real quick.

CISA?

CISA, it's the Cyber Security and Infrastructure Security Agency.

It's a component of the DH.

And it sounds so perfect and wonderful and needed and required and safe.

And why wouldn't you want security, right?

If the acronym seems too wonderful and safe and secure, question it.

That's my motto is question.

It's something that's it's friendly fascism.

So there have been authors, social scientists decades ago who talked about this is what's coming.

Aldo Huxley of Brave New World said, you know, it's not going to be Orwell's boot stomping on a face forever.

It's going to be coming with us.

You know, so if fascism comes to America, it comes rampant in the flag.

It comes with a smiley face.

And so CISA says now that if you are spreading disinformation, it could even be malinformation.

So information that is true, but inconvenient for the government, you are now attacking, because the cyber infrastructure is now part of the government, they say.

So you're now attacking the cyber infrastructure, which means you're attacking the government now.

Again, fog prime, they actually say you're a non-kinetic threat.

And that's, I think, why then CISA, DHS told PayPal, shut these accounts down.

Why are you even a threat anyhow?

If it seems to me, most people that know it, know what we know already, know it.

And the people that don't, like some of my family, for example, it's perfect because they're the complete opposite.

And there are test lit, test lit-ness for me on war.

Like, do they believe what the standard thing is?

Yes.

Can I change your mind?

No.

Can I influence them?

It's tough.

It doesn't matter what I say anyhow.

So why bother censoring us in the first place?

Well, like I said earlier, I think some of us hit a certain threshold.

So like when my Boil video gets 300,000 views.

And I think so that was taken down.

And then the next day, my face was on the front page of Alex Jones's Infowars.

And he was doing a play-by-play of that interview.

And then it was reposted on a bunch of alternative media platforms.

And I think it was seen by millions.

So you get what I'm saying.

Once you hit that threshold, it's like, okay, get him.

But in your case, Pretend you have freedom of speech.

If they shut me down too early, I'll realize, oh, I don't have freedom of speech.

Make them think you have freedom of speech until you get too big.

And those are smaller numbers.

And nobody will miss them, really, like the mosquito.

We'll just take a swat them and...

It's a surgical operation.

I mean, another great example, my very first podcast, so I started Geopolitics & Empire in 2015, but in 2012, really, I started the old YouTube channel called Dissident Thinker.

That's when I started interviewing former CIA, people like that.

And then by 2015, three years later, I sort of formalized it into Geopolitics & Empire.

And that old channel is still linked.

If people go to Geopolitics & Empire YouTube, they'll see Dissident Thinker, and they can see my old original interviews.

By the way, if you type in Geopolitics & Empire to the Google search, I'm blacklisted.

It's another example.

So if you type in Geopolitics & Empire in Google search, you won't find almost anything, but in any other search, you'll get my website at the top and everything else.

So my very first interview in 2012 was Corporal Jesse Thorson.

I think it was his name.

And he was famous because he supported the Ron Paul candidacy at the time.

I had Ron Paul on my podcast.

I've met him.

And Thorson was a US military veteran.

And this is way back, like 2010s.

So he started to question the official narrative of 9-11.

But he's not posting anything publicly, but he's using big tech like Facebook.

And so he's privately messaging friends and family about his theories on 9-11, questioning the narrative.

There's a video of this somewhere where someone rings on his door.

I think he's not wearing a shirt.

He opens the door and it's US government authorities with no warrant, no nothing.

I don't think they have like a sheriff and police in a black car or something.

They rendition him.

Like this is America.

They just, there's no, he didn't do anything wrong.

They don't have a warrant.

They just take, like, this is what happens in Russia or China or, you know, totalitarian.

They're not the police.

There's not the sheriff wearing a sheriff's badge.

These are probably plain clothes.

Yeah, some sort of weird unit of some totalitarian, you know, Stasi agents of the US.

And so they throw him in the car and they send him, they try to put him in a mental asylum.

And then, so this was like way back 2012.

And then the lawyer at the time, who I later became a huge fan of, who's been on my podcast, his name is John Whitehead of Rutherford Institute.

So John Whitehead was a lawyer, managed to get him out and get him free.

And this was completely unconscious.

So I think what happened here is going back to our earlier point, he's a military veteran.

And as you were saying earlier, most of America venerates, worships, war and soldiers, right?

Because they're soldiers, they put their life on the line for our country.

So what soldiers say, we must listen to them.

Pat Tillman, I was a huge fan of Pat Tillman.

You remember Pat Tillman?

He was a football player becoming very successful, I think in college football and I think NFL.

When 9-11 happened, he was patriotic and he signed up and he went to Afghanistan.

And then he started to see that it was not what they were telling us.

And he somehow died from friendly fire, conveniently.

And there was a documentary made about this.

So on the 9-11, I was supposed to fly the day it happened.

And I was already stuck in Florida, I was supposed to fly home and I couldn't.

I was one of the first people to fly.

And what tipped me off that same day was the way the news was reporting it as if they already knew stuff that they couldn't have known unless they did investigate, unless something was fed to them.

They didn't have time to, they should have just said, oh my gosh, a plane hit the tower.

Not there's only one person that could have done this, Osama Bin Laden.

Like, how do you know that?

Ten seconds later.

And I started to question it right away, but I'm fascinated why it took till just now, it seems like on the Carl Tuckerson show, he's talking about 9-11, like it's okay to talk about, like people are interested in it.

Why now is this all of a sudden in the news again?

Yeah, you know, that's a good question.

I don't know.

And there are clips of Tucker Carlson where he, people asked him like 10, 15 years ago, and he's like, he's scoffed at the idea of questioning.

And now, and now all of a sudden, he's talking about, it's like, look at me, I'm smart.

And I'm going to call, I'm going to call, you know, BS on this.

Like, and then, you know, same thing with global warming.

All of a sudden, it's in the news and chemtrails, all these conspiracies that they still don't admit something's true.

But I'm fast.

I'm kind of like, something's going on here.

Like, why are they plugging all the conspiracies now all of a sudden, like trying to change the way people think almost or something?

Yeah, I don't know if you have further insights on that.

I think part of it is the zeitgeist has changed, and so maybe Tucker has genuinely changed his mind.

Also riding this new wave of how things have changed, you know, that affects your bottom line.

But also some of it is the people in power, I feel they don't have much to fear because there's nothing we can really do.

So we can sort of keep talking about this stuff.

You look at JFK, I mean, I feel people have, I think most of us know that it wasn't really Harvey Oswald, it was clearly DeepState, probably CIA and other interests involved.

And, but well, we've never gone to the bottom of it.

So we can just keep talking about it.

Let's stay on 9-11.

Backing up to when it happened, like you say, where this guy got arrested because he spoke about it.

And a week later, actually, I had a friend who was, he was an international banker visiting us.

And we asked him what his opinion is like.

We can't talk about that.

Like he was looking around the room, like, no, we're not talking about that.

Why now are they not afraid?

But back then they were, do you think?

Well, cause I think they've gotten away with it.

So now you can sort of, and then this stuff that's coming out is maybe, you know, the term limited hangout.

So some limited hangout, right?

So that's like where limited hangout, it's like somebody who reveals information, but they're basically working for the same system, the government.

So they're, they pretend to be, let's say a whistleblower or a dissident.

And they're, but they reveal only, you know, 50 percent of the information.

So and then they throw in there in this bit, it's not true.

So they, they preemptively have convinced you, when you hear that part, it's not, it's, I'm telling you, I'm the insider, that part's made up.

And that's the part you really need to hear, probably.

Yeah, so they can deflect or steer, steer the truth movement and effectively diffuse it in that way.

And then, well, and then on top of that, I think they're preparing further such events in the coming years for us.

And so, you know, every time a new event happens, the memories of the old events, you know, as we get further away from it, it sort of just fades into the past, you know, like, you know, JFK, 9-11.

Coming back to the solutions again, as if there would be any, as if they wouldn't do what they want to do anyhow, even if everybody became instantly knowledgeable about, you know, it's an inside job and that's not true.

But you don't seem to have anything better than I do in terms of just sharing what you know with people.

Yeah, I mean, I ask my guests the same thing, and one is trying to raise as much help as possible, as much awareness.

You know, one thing that sort of helped with COVID that I noticed was a lot of the stuff that happened, I was able to successfully, precisely predict because I knew that it was a game plan, it was planned.

You know, I had said in March or April of 2020 that COVID was about bringing in global algochrosy.

What's that algochrosy?

So it's a rule, algochrosy means rule by AI or algorithm.

And I was reading a paper by Nick Bostrom, who proposed that we need to have a global totalitarian world government surveillance state run by AI, artificial intelligence, and algorithm, because people, you can't confide in people.

And so this can solve all our problems.

And I read that at the time.

And then you saw COVID was attempting to bring in QR codes, digital IDs, digital passports.

And fast forward now in the last few months, Joe Rogan interviewed Mark Andreessen and a lot of these tech guys.

And then you hear Joe Rogan specifically saying, yeah, we should have rule by AI, rule by algorithm.

And now they're bringing in digital IDs.

And UK just mandated, you cannot work if you don't have digital ID.

That's like a COVID.

COVID, you could not work if you didn't have the digital COVID ID.

So I kind of respect, Joe, I'm always a little bit questionable about someone who's that big, because he's got to be influenced or careful or shutting down.

But yours sounds like you're saying he's part of the system.

He's doing what they tell him to do in that way, or his opinion seems to match with what they prefer.

So I think it's a lot more nuanced than that.

A lot of people in the conspiracy world are like black and white.

They just, oh, he's a conspiracy agent.

And it's like, no, at the end of the day, we're humans, things are nuanced, we have different interests.

And I think it's more, and then he's influenced by his guests' ideas and maybe he hears that idea and he's like, maybe that's not such a bad idea.

But I think the system has boosted him.

So again, you can't deny agency to all of these people like Tucker Carlson.

In Joe's defense, because I've done it, we're live or we're recording a podcast, I'm not editing it, I'm not going to cut it.

That was my thought at the time, right?

And later I think about it more and I changed my mind and people are stuck on the first thing I said, like, you know what, I have more time to think about it.

And no, I think that's wrong now.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

People change their minds, but also I think the system boosts the people.

Oh, the algorithm does.

If they like the idea, they're going to plug it too.

Right, or that platform and then he'll, the doors will open for him to have guests.

So, and it goes back to what we were saying earlier, limited hangout, you can't have all propaganda.

You know, Joe Rogan can't have all of his guests as propaganda.

So it's a mix.

You have like good guests who tell you good things.

And then another guest.

He's got the comedians, the actors, the why like Lionel Richie was on the show last week.

Yeah.

So it'll be a rotation.

Again, a limited hangout idea that you can't, people are going to see immediately see through.

So you got to be authentic.

So I think that's how it's sort of managed.

The AI algorithm, just this week, I became aware of what you're talking about.

I use it for editing blogs and stuff, just grammar and stuff.

What I was creating a blog on is what the three things to me that made me question global warming, because I used to believe in it.

Like I was a believer.

And then finally one day I'm like, why are so many people?

Why is it in the news?

Why does anybody care?

Nobody does the right thing all the time, that much, unless there's another reason.

So I wrote about the three things that really made me think better, and I'm just having chat edited for grammar.

It starts adding buts, buts, buts, and correcting everything I say or making it.

This is what you say, Daniel, but this is actually more true.

I'm like, that's not what I asked you to do.

And what is going on here?

And what I noticed when it was doing its little editing is, you know, it'll chat, GBT will say thinking, and it flashed for a moment, accuracy check.

And it did all that, the accuracy checking.

So I asked it, what's accuracy checking?

Can you tell me like, is there a, is there a document on what you just didn't know?

I'm like, well, who decides?

Like, how did you decide to add all that stuff to what it even asked for?

And that kind of irritated me.

I've never, this is the first time I heard something like that.

And I, I, I haven't used those platforms yet.

I've only used Gemini to, I'll upload the transcript of one of my podcasts and ask it to summarize.

Now I'm going to look at it twice.

So the great thing though, is one of the things was that changed my mind.

It was actually downloaded the temperature data from an actual weather station.

And I found one that went back a hundred years every day of the week.

And I didn't just plot the highest temperature, I plotted the lowest daily and the average.

And I gave that to chat as part of, what was in, it was part of my blog.

And the nice thing was chat literally agreed with me.

It said, you are right, in that city, it is not getting hotter.

And this was Phoenix, Arizona, by the way, which everyone says, you know, oh, it's getting hot.

And, you know, Phoenix is hot.

But that does not mean that it can't coincide with the climate change narrative because you need to have spatially average and homogenize data from around the world.

Are you serious?

Artificial intelligence is telling me it's not getting hotter in this city, but that doesn't mean that global warming doesn't exist.

And we should instead average every city, which can't be done because there's not...

It wasn't even logical.

And it's trying to hammer this idea down my throat, though.

I'm like, wow, yeah, we are...

Exactly what you're talking about is going to happen because people are going to...

They use AI all the time to learn stuff and not going to realize that they're being manipulated.

They're going to...

They're being told...

It's kind of like you were saying to get this level with your show.

If you're not big enough, asking the big enough questions, they're not going to bother you with the truth information.

If you really start hitting the nerves, they're going to feed you what they want to feed you, make you want to believe what...

And you think it's AI is smart.

Well, yeah, and Eric Schmidt of Google said...

There's a clip of him 10, 15 years ago.

He said their goal...

I think they've been working on this ChatGPT stuff for decades.

This has been planned long ago.

How is it you go look at the video he said 15 years ago, and here we are now.

This means they're steering us towards their plans and for this totalitarian dystopia.

And he said, we eventually want...

Because you had the Google search engine, where you type in queries and you get a whole host of responses.

And then you as a critical thinker, put those together and come to the conclusion, which I like having that versus what we have now, where you only get one answer.

You type in ChatGPT, it gives you one answer.

Like you said, show me the sources.

No, this is the one correct answer.

And Eric Schmidt said, our goal is to eventually have, where you type into the search, your one question and you get the one answer.

But then it's like according to whom?

According to them, and it could be false.

And there's no thinking, there's no thought.

Like in a library, you could go down, walk the library, find the topic, climate change, and at least right next to the one that said, we're gonna die from climate change, you see the alternative viewpoint.

Climate change is a hoax.

You'd see them side by side, those books.

And you could pull them both off the shelf and read both of them.

And more if you wanted more.

You can't do that if you get the one answer from Chat Juni T.

No, and just, you know, as my example, I mean, I was called crazy conspiracy theorist.

You know, I taught high school, university.

And at university, they gave me a course called, because I am an international relations graduate.

And so that's what was my field.

And they gave me a course called environment and international relations.

So what do you think I did?

So if you go to virtually any university class, you talk about terrorism, they gave me a course to teach on 9-11.

And I was generally given the liberty to form my own syllabus and do my own thing, which was great.

And if you go to any university, they're going to tell you 9-11, the official story, they're going to tell you climate change, the official narrative.

What should a real professor do?

Real student, real academic.

What did I do?

So environment and international relations.

We spent one session, I forget how long each session was, one or two or three hours, looking at the official narrative of climate change.

The next session, we looked at the opposite, the skeptic narrative, and we debated.

And I'm not forcing it down your throats, students, I'm giving you both perspectives.

And Al Gore actually came to our campus here in Mexico 10 years ago, and they had, more than 10 years ago, they had to pay him $200,000, and all of the questions you would ask Gore had to go through a filter, they had to be scripted.

You couldn't spontaneously ask him about some of these tough points you're bringing up.

And in my class, I Skyped in for free from UK, Lord Christopher Monckton, who's like the anti-Al Gore, and he spoke to us midnight UK for free for two hours.

You don't have to pay him.

And I had another good example, Piers Corbin, who's the brother of Jeremy Corbin, you know, the politician in UK.

And Piers Corbin is an astrophysicist, I think scientist, and he's got a service called Weather Action, where he predicts the weather based on his thesis, which he says global warming is bunk.

And he says the climate cycle is natural, is driven by the sun.

So solar and lunar cycles are what principle.

Sunspot activity was the other thing that changed my way of thinking.

I'm like, oh, I'd never realized that the sun has burst.

It's not a constant glowing ball, but it has like burst, you know, like pops and whatnot.

Oh, and over like 20, 30, 50, a thousand years too, not just day to day.

Yeah, yeah.

And so, you know, what does the scientists do?

I tested his hypothesis.

So I've been interviewed him.

And so I purchased his weather action report.

This was like back in 2013 or something when I was teaching that course.

And I'm like, I'm gonna test his thesis.

You know, they tell us where we are the cause of global warming.

He says, no, it's the sun and the moon and the natural causes.

And supposedly, his weather action, many farmers subscribe to his weather action service because he predicts months ahead of time accurately the weather, right?

But the global warmingists don't.

And so I'm like, OK, I'm going to check this guy's theory.

So it's like January.

I bought his January report 2013.

I've got this somewhere on Files.

And I remember at the time, I distinctly remember some of the things he said, like March 25th.

I may have bought it in late January, February.

He said, March 25th, you're going to see historic, massive floods and storms in the American Midwest, Iowa.

I don't remember.

And I'm like, OK, that's what the report says.

And I'm teaching this course.

And I kid you not, I couldn't believe it.

To the day, March 25th, it was like NBC News, mainstream news, historic flooding.

And so his thesis was proven correct.

How are you going to tell me now?

Because he's being guided by the theory that it's the solar lunar cycle.

He predicted the weather.

To the day, it came true.

Now, tell me global warming, you know, is is true.

You know, get out of here.

Well, also, they changed it from global warming to climate change when they realized that it's not getting hot, hotter, fast enough, long.

It's been 20 years.

We haven't got to the temperature it was supposed to warm to, so we better change the title from global warming to climate change.

And plus, now we can blame even if it gets colder on CO2.

How's that possible?

Well, we can do it now because it's all climate change.

And it goes back to what we're talking about.

Orwell, Orwell, Orwell, 2 plus 2 equals 5.

You know, we've always been at war with Eurasia.

So that's the thing.

Going back to ChatGBT, I've done this.

If you ask it, if you tell it, look, it doesn't make sense.

How can the CO2 make it get warmer?

OK, even if I buy that lie, it can't also make it get colder.

It'll come up with a complex explanation that you'd have to be a smart guy and spend a day breaking it down and assuming it's false to begin with and asking Chad TBT to defend it to the point where you can otherwise, on face value, it sounds like science and the average person might believe it, will believe it, they do believe it.

I mean, and there's great examples of this very thing in any other area.

We were talking about 9-11, go back to Al-Qaeda.

I mean, this is a crazy example.

So in the 1980s, I mean, Hillary Clinton admitted this.

Again, who's crazy here?

So in 1980s, the US government, CIA, Pentagon supported, they armed and trained the Mujahideen, what became Al-Qaeda, and Osama bin Laden was an asset of the US.

And I think that was because for those not old enough remembering it, our idea is always is, we want to help another country, right?

The Al-Qaeda, we were helping the Al-Qaeda because there was some other country that we wanted.

The Soviets were in Afghanistan, right?

So, arm them against Soviets.

But, so, okay, they're the, but this goes back to Orwell, where, you know, in the totalitarian world of 1984, Airstrip won and in Ingsoc, Big Brother is out there, this dark resistance organization that doesn't really exist.

And then this week, we're fighting Eurasia, and East Asia is our ally and Eurasia is our enemy.

And then the next week, it's like, now we're fighting East Asia, and Eurasia is our ally in East Asia.

Like there's nothing else going on in the world anywhere, nor the terrorism or dictatorship.

It's always this one little area, like it's the only part that there's a problem, right, in the news.

Yeah, and then the propaganda is like, no, no, we've always been fighting China.

Russia has been our friend, but wait, we were fighting them last month.

No, no, no.

And so with Al-Qaeda in 1980s, they're our friends.

1990s, 2000s, Al-Qaeda is our enemy.

And then in the 2000s, Al-Qaeda is our friend again, because we're so, there's the Defense Intelligence Agency document from 2012 that was declassified.

And even Michael Flynn, formerly of the IA, said that document that the US, European countries, Turkey, Saudi are intentionally supporting Al-Qaeda and ISIS.

So now they're our friends again.

And the current president of Syria, al-Sharah, is former Al-Qaeda.

And there was a clip that leaked.

It was a speech given a few months ago from, I think, an American diplomat.

I mean, this is shocking.

It reveals it all.

This American diplomat said he was approached by British intelligence, someone from British government.

And they said, can you take this guy, al-Sharah, who's al-Qaeda, who attacked American soldiers in Iraq and whatever, al-Qaeda, can you remake him into a suit into a politician, like a palatable politician to be the president of Syria?

And he was recently, he spoke at the UN recently, this al-Qaeda president of Syria, and General Petraeus, former CIA director, recently interviewed him on stage, warmly welcoming him.

And it's like, wait a minute, he was, he's al-Qaeda, but now he's okay.

Like, yeah, it's, it's.

So back to the solutions, I know it's tough.

Well, let's imagine for a moment, if everybody did suddenly become aware of suddenly where, where I will tell disinformation from, from fact.

And they knew, you know, climate change is a lie, that war is a lie, et cetera, et cetera.

Is there anything we could still do about it?

Or would they just shove it down our throat?

Anyhow?

Oh, I think there's a number of things.

I just forgot my earlier point where, when I was talking about COVID in 2020 and being able to predict things, some of my Mexican friends looked at me like I was crazy, saying it was all a fraud to bring in digital controls.

And this was here in Mexico before, they told us there was a red button that we're going to push.

And the governor here in Mexico is like coming out, threatening us.

And you know, this was before they did the lockdown.

They're like, we're thinking of pressing the button because of the pandemic.

So we're not doing it today.

What is the button going to do?

It was like this button for lockdown to tell people to wear masks.

And I told all my friends like, look, they're going to press the button, they're going to lock down, they're going to introduce COVID password, they're going to do all.

So my friends initially were like, oh, you're a crazy conspiracy theorist.

And then after the year we went through that, everything that I said that they were going to do, they did.

And then my friends were like, okay, you're not so crazy anymore, because how can you predict all of this to the T?

And so I think this is one strong point in trying to convince people, if we can, you know, if you read the books, you go through all this data, you analyze, if we correctly assess what's going on and can forecast the future, that will wake a lot of people up, I think.

And then what can we do?

Just not complying, it's, you know, critical mass.

If you can get a critical mass not to comply with what's going on.

So if you predict stuff and they don't censor you and shut you down, it would be like I'm playing football and all of a sudden, the other team knows my plans, my plan.

You're going to have to change your plan or wait, wait for a new generation of people to come out.

Maybe you wait 20 or 100 years and then just bring the whole thing back just as if you didn't skip a beat.

So maybe the stuff is good, the helpful that we do and like what you did, predict it because if people start following your predictions like the stock market, then it changes the market.

Yeah, I hadn't heard anyone say it like you haven't.

I think that's a great way of fleshing that out.

I could give local examples of COVID where here in Mexico, Mexico City, 25 million people, whatever, a huge, massive, and the mayor of Mexico City said at the time, I think it was like 2020, just like they tried in many parts of the world, some places they succeeded, they had greater success and others they didn't.

So the mayor said, now if you want to enter into any pharmacy or shop or whatever, you have to scan the QR code at the entrance to enter.

And so what happened?

Because it's a massive city, it's just untenable, right?

People live on the poverty line, they have to go to work, they cannot not work.

Your phone is not working, it's not charged, the camera is broken, whatever.

And it's like 25 million people, it's like, good luck, they're like, screw you, I have to eat today, you know?

But it's for your public health, we're starving you to death, right?

Like in China, people were welded, shot starving to death in their apartments.

It's for your health, we're starving you to death, you know?

But anyways, people just for a week didn't comply, they didn't care about the QR codes, and then the mayor comes out and is like, okay, just kidding, we're taking that requirement away that nobody obeyed.

They made it sound like it was their idea, and it was only because of non-compliance, as you say.

Right, and so I think that's one example.

So going forward, you know, it would be this sort of idea, just not complying with their systems, not buying from the big corporate worlds, pulling away, finding alternatives, you know, using cash, just these types of things.

You know, petitioning works.

I mean, here's a horrible example.

Give you another example from Mexico.

Just this morning, yesterday, I saw, in some part of Mexico, in a small town, there was a citizen, you know, he had a business, he was a worker, he was a good citizen, he was trying to improve his community.

And you know, you got the roads, and the roads got potholes, and there's no sidewalks, and he's like filming, and he's constantly making noise, petitioning the government, getting the people together to get the government to do what it's supposed to do.

And so he was filming, there's actual video, he's filming the potholes.

And so unfortunately, this is how it is in Mexico, but he's a good example of what we should do.

Organize, petition, make a lot of noise, which then forces the government, or these forces to react.

And so unfortunately, what happened, two hitmen, sicarios, a motorcycle passed by, and while he's filming his spiel, they shoot him.

He, I think he might still be alive, but then he falls on the floor, the video, his camera's still recording, he's telling his wife, he's like, Take care of my children, I love you, I'm dying right now.

But then I read the article, and he's like, this damn government, this damn government.

And because he says they petitioned the local mayor who wasn't doing anything.

So basically, I think what happened was, because the narcos and the government are the same, the mayor probably told the cartels, hey, take this guy out, he's making too much noise, which means what he was doing was effective.

Now, if enough people were like this, okay, it's just like, it's kind of like my case, right?

But if, you know, there's five or 10, they can't shoot all hundred people in the village.

If everybody, so it makes me think of your content that was taken down from Patreon, YouTube and PayPal.

If you copied and pasted that onto every website and blog in the world, it'd be out there because they're not going to take down every single website.

Yeah, I mean, unfortunately, again, at my vantage point here in Mexico, there's another Mexican young man he made, worked hard for years, made a successful restaurant business and the cartels, they ask you basically to begin them a slave, give all of your profits to them every month, like the mafia attacks or we're going to kill you.

And he made a video, he said, I unfortunately have to shut down.

I mean, still in shock.

They're sending me extortion attempts.

I'm afraid the sicario is going to come and shoot up my customers and kill me.

So I'm going to shut my business down.

It's sad because I like to think people are good.

And it's almost like I wonder if it's hopeless sometimes because you have all these corrupt politicians and they're not the Rockefellers.

They're probably getting paid by the Rockefellers, but they could say no.

Yeah, very virtually none are saying no.

And just to finish that point, the one thing that he said is like, I know many of you listening, other Mexicans who have businesses, are going through the same situation.

And he says the government doesn't care.

They know about this problem, they're complicit.

And he said, but, if more of you speak out and generate noise in the public sphere, plus denunciations and petitions with the different government institutions, so now there's not enough noise.

But if you generate enough noise, that will then force the government into reacting.

I'm pretending I'm the governor.

It's not that I'm corrupt.

I just have my, I'm a narcissist.

I have my own interest in mind.

If enough people complain, I just look bad.

So I got to go to my boss, who's the Rockefeller, who I haven't got.

Look man.

Or whoever.

Yeah, look man.

You got to, I can't do it.

Can we do something different?

Yeah, exactly.

So that I save face?

You need me to save face because otherwise I'm not your face, right?

Yeah, it's pretty much.

So I think that's one thing we can do, whether it's to buy time or just...

Thanks so much, Hrvoje.

Is that how you say it?

Hrvoje, Hrvoje.

Tell listeners about your site, The Geopolitics & Empire Podcast.

And the links will be in my show notes for this episode, but tell us about what you do in your...

Yeah, so I've been for a decade.

It was mostly a hobby, a moonlighting project while I was teaching.

And in the last year and a half, I've been doing it full time, which has been fun.

And we're close to 600 interviews that I've conducted, geopoliticsandempire.com.

And then there's geopoliticsandempire.substack.com.

I'm active on the Telegram, on X, on many video platforms and elsewhere.

And then there's a paid option where people...

I do a weekly analysis for...

I try to summarize world events in one hour a week, and so in video, audio, and written format.

So that's for paid subscribers.

And then I do off the record Zoom calls with supporters, like whoever wants to join every week or two or three, just to sort of shoot the breeze on world events.

And yeah, so basically putting out, continuing to do interviews and put out that podcast.

Is there anything I haven't asked here, we haven't talked about, you think is real critical for, that you'd like to add?

Well, we touched on some of the core themes, as you said, the green agenda is coming at us.

The wars now, they're agitating against Russia.

So it seems like, and you know, it seems like they're going to go and attack around, and Russia, which could lead to...

I think we might have a few years, as some of my guests say, it's going to, you know, closer to 2030.

So that's going to be a problem.

And then the biggest thing I think is whether it's war or some type of pandemic quote event or a cyber event, they will use any and all of those pretexts to take away our civil liberties, you know, take away free speech rights, implement digital ID.

And so I think people have to understand it's not about left or right anymore.

We've seen under the left Biden administration.

Oh, I quit voting in the United States.

So here's how bad my, I've done the ridiculous, naïve things.

I voted for Al Gore, believed in climate change.

Then I voted for Bush Jr.

I actually voted for Bush Sr.

I've been around the block and I came to conclusion like you're saying, I'm being played by both ends.

And if I go Libertarian or Green, I'm still in a game that I, it's a game.

Yeah, it's, it's, and then, you know, like I said, the Biden was bringing in that.

And now under Trump, they're furthering, you know, attacks on free speech and police.

And same thing here in Mexico.

We've got three parties.

I didn't vote.

So I'm not voting.

I get beat up as people like my family just doesn't get it.

They're like, it's your right to vote.

I'm like, what do you mean, right to vote?

What does that mean?

Like I need to vote for one of these two candidates.

That's not really my that's doesn't sound much opportunity, much righteousness.

So I don't vote.

Yeah.

My reaction is like, if you realize it's it's a simulation, the voting process, it's a simulacra.

It's a lie.

And so for me to vote in my own conscience is I'm participating in the lie.

Exactly.

I'm a fraud and I'm not going to go against my own.

I'm a liar.

I'm not going to do that.

I'm not going to participate.

I want to be stand for truth and justice.

It would call it would call the kettle black if nobody voted and like, well, well, then let's say you have two candidates and they vote for each other.

They vote for themselves.

One of them, they got three votes to count three votes.

You won.

The jig will be up.

Nobody did actually vote you in.

I think in some countries, you're starting to see this increasing trend of less.

Then in some countries, I think is Australia and some place in Central America, if you don't vote, you get a fine.

I'd pay the fine.

There you go.

That's their fix to it.

That's how they'll fix it.

Or you'll get taxed on your taxes or your digital currency won't be as worth as much or something.

Yeah.

They'll make you play the game that you don't want to play.

But at least you'll know, at least I appreciate you saying that because I'm almost afraid to mention it because I get beat up when I say I don't vote because I've been around the block.

I've done it and I've done both extremes.

I believed in global warming.

I didn't.

I voted Republican.

I voted.

I've done.

It doesn't change anything.

Einstein's quip.

What did he say?

If you do something and the effect is the same and you keep repeating.

Yeah, he says insanity.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing more than once, getting the same result and expecting it to be different.

And I'm voting.

I mean, I'm a citizen of three countries.

And so I refuse to vote in any of those three countries because it's the same thing.

But I would just tell people, I think eventually the light wins, truth wins.

The problem is we might have to suffer to get through that.

And I don't know if the rest of my life I'll be going living further in this digital totalitarian dystopia or not.

And I think it's just whether we win or not, I always cite there's this excellent quote, you know, it's echoes of the movie 300.

Remember that movie 300, Sparta?

No, it's one I haven't seen.

I'll make note of it.

Yeah, well, I think effectively, you know, resistance itself is victory.

And Imran Khan, he said some 15 years ago, I have a tweet from him, he's now in jail because he was trying to do the right thing.

He said, if victory is certain, even a coward will fight, but real bravery is when one dares to fight, when defeat is certain.

And so I think just do the right thing and keep speaking truth.

It's going to be a lot for them to snuff out all of us who are holding up these ideals of truth, love and justice.

So yeah.

Thanks so much for being on my show.

I really appreciate it.

Thanks for having me.